NAM3 Reflectivity "issue" and migration

Compare two screenshots. The HRRR vs NAM3 at 22:00 CDT

I suggest 2 “fixes” (that could perhaps be added simultaneously). And one additional option.

  1. Fix the NAM to use the “combined reflectivity” for a single run. Versus the Max reflectivity. (I have struggled to find the exact product. HREF has a combined 4hr or a “paintball” for hourly)
  2. Use the 48hr HRRR runs that are available at the same times as the NAM3 (0/6/12/18z). As to keep the same model/programming/logic for the first ~48 hours.
  3. I understand (and appreciate to a certain extent) the usefulness of the max reflectivity. It is excellent to find a most reasonable ETA. Can it be an togglable option if the 1st fix (Single run vs Max Reflectivity) is implemented?

My biggest issue is when the storms go “BOOM” after 12 hours, but really it’s the theory/display change than anything meteorological.

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Further discussion. #2 is prompted by the title of PNS25-41

pns25-41_RRFS_legacy_model_cessation.pdf

As a deterministic system running to 84 h, the RRFS would fully retire
the NAM

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Sorry, I don’t know what to compare in the screenshot. Please be explicit. I could guess but then if I guessed wrong, we’d be talking about different things and wasting time.

I really don’t understand what you are meaning in suggestions 1-3. I add weather model data to Flowx. I don’t generate new data or manipulate/change data.

Also the data you are looking at is “Precipitation”, not “Reflectivity” - this is why I’m further confused.

RRFS is on the todo list.

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What product do you render for NAM and HRRR?

What is the Grib file named for the precipitation type?

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I don’t know what you mean by “product”. Flowx renders the model output data from the HRRR and NAM models.

Maybe look at:

It comes from a single large GRIB file. The parameter short name is “prate”.

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Prate

Thank you. Very helpful

NAM nest CONUS

630:743262305:d=2026042406:PRATE:surface:28 hour fcst:
631:743712016:d=2026042406:PRATE:surface:27-28 hour max fcst:

HRRR

1053:589095041:d=2026042400:PRATE:surface:anl:

I do wonder what a comparison of the NAM 630 Prate and the 631 Prate would look like.

Sadly I don’t know of an outside GRIB generator to show specific times. But based on a few of the hard transitions does make me think the current NAM is showing the Max Forecast rates of all the members (631)

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You may be right. The processing should find the first one but I’ll double check. I recently updated the scripts and a bug may have got in.

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Found the bug. It was downloading all the data and getting the max precipitation. I think AI added the bug and I didn’t notice.

The data is fixed in the latest release but not all historic releases have been updated.

Thanks for picking that up.

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Thanks man.

Seems to track a lot closer now. No real kaboom and matches the MAG render of the NAM3


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